Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7 Hi all By chance is there any one else here using a V-amp pro in a Windows 7 setup? My Setup is Windows 7 64 Sonar Producer X1D with a VS-700 system. I have had my system working with the V-amp editor software in the past for saving presets but I have now run in to problems. I had not used the V-amp in a while and decided to factory reset the unit and put some old presets on it using the software but the problem I am now facing is when I launch the vamp.exe installer I get the error No response from V-amp!!
Check connection. Because of this I cant even install the software. I have been in touch with Behringer support and they have been no help at all. They started by telling me the editor will not work with Windows 7 ( I know this is not true as I had it working in the past ) They then got back and told me that they have now got it working on a Windows 7 system at there end with no problems. I have done the following trouble shooting with them. Delete the editor turn off computer download and run the editor again but still with no luck. They are now telling me it may be because I am using a VS-700 and because I have a Ilok2 in my computer so I took the Ilok2 out and still no luck.
They are now telling me 'There is too many possibilities and or conflicts. With using a VS-700 as a interface, combined with a ilock. And Windows 7. ' In there last email they said to uninstall the Drivers for the VS-700 and anything else I use and then reinstall them then try the V-amp editor. I don't want to have to uninstall the drivers for the VS-700 because it works fine with everything else and the midi in and out has no problems with any other device. I hope some of you guys maybe have it working or have a Idea of anything else I can try? I am really unimpressed with Behringer support.
Thanks to all Norrie. Hi Norrie, I was able to take the day off today to take care of my wife who had a medical procedure this morning. So I took the opportunity to try to set up the V-amp Pro software on my system and connect it via MIDI. I AM able to communicate with the V-amp using the following configuration: Win7x64 M-audio UNO MIDI/USB cable with 64bit drivers NOTE: I'm not using VS-700 - and just going thru the M-audio UNO for the MIDI connection to the V-amp when v-amp comes up it scans, finds the M-audio UNO connection, finds the V-amp, sets it as BASS V-AMP PRO 1.04 one thing I just now mentioned that you likely have different is that I have the BASS V-Amp Pro, not the Guitar one. But I would think that wouldn't really matter for the connection software. It works fine for me on win7 64bit. I don't know if it really is a VS-700 problem or not, but I really would be surprised that the VS-700 would be the problem.
If you can borrow or buy a MIDI/USB cable instead of gonig thru the VS-700 that would tell you if it really is the VS700 or not. But the software itself works fine on win7x64! Thank you for the reply and I hope your wife is doing ok?
It is not even showing any signs of the system being scanned on my side its just coming up with the error each time. It is strange this has started since doing a factory rest on the V-amp as it was working fine before that. Thank you for confirming that windows 7 is not the problem:) I have asked them what is the Behringer complaints procedure and funny enough they have now offered to start calling me to offer support rather than give me the info so I will see how I get on:) Thanks again for all the help.
Thanks Beagle I have just been contacted again by Behringer this time by one of there senior techs with a long apology about the situation and that the VS-700 is more than adequate for the purpose. Anyways long story short. I have been asked me to download MidiOx and check the data going to, and coming from your VAMP PRO, and what the VAMP PRO is connected to, in this case, your PC via the Roland interface.
Has any one any experience with MidiOx? Will it leave any foot print behind or install anything that I don't want on my DAW?
Thanks again for all your help Norrie. Norrie or Anyone reading this. Trust me,I have been a V-Amp Pro User for years.
I know the unit inside and out as well as the V-Ampire LX1 amp. Other than being able to chain 1-2 more FX independently, and store files you/I? Gain little using the PC editor. Seriously almost ZERO. The Fx are not studio grade anyway so don't bother.
Imo You will get the best out of this unit keeping it simple. 1.Use the Digital cab sims that you like.or the analogue built in cab sim(its not for me) 2. Use the digital amp model you like. 3 Learn how to correctly set which mode you want to use the unit in. 4.Learn how to correctly use both channel EQ and the Global EQ.it makes a huge difference when tone shaping.
Learn How to use the input attenuation.it will vastly affect how different guitar pickups sound and interact with the unit.if you work on it you can get a good sounding soft clip. You can't get that out of the other modelers. Forget the digital output.it is sterile and has very poor gain staging.it is weak, not professional grade at all.
Use the analogue XLR output with a nice tube saturation type pre-amp for tracking and possibly some form of out board parametric EQ. AND TRACK DRY. As far as you editor problem, some are caused by your graphics settings.
Other than chaining a few of the FX together seperatley, you can do all of the exact same editing on the front of the unit and save them all as well. For me its faster and you have no extra cables hanging everywhere.I can look at the unit and see whats up.I don't have to open the PC editor. If anyone has any questions concerning the physical operation of the unit feel free to PM me I will help as much as possible. I personally feel the V-Amp Pro is one of the best low cost option for home recording.but It only does a few things really well.use those and your golden. Oops.sorry Beagle,I didn't read the previous replies.I just started typing, edited for Norries good points.
Thank you I will give MIDIOx a try today and see what results it gives me then report back and let you know how I get on:) @Zungle. I have to disagree to an extent. Part of the Editor is for being able to Import and Export Sysex files for saving on the DAW or importing to the V-amp. There are loads of Sysex available for download online most of them I have here and yes a lot of them are crap but a lot I have found to be better than what is on the unit from factory reset. If you have not tried them I would recommend doing so its also a great way to share tones with other users as you will see on the website.
With out having this running at the moment I cant access the saved files I have. Although it might not be 'Studio Quality' and that is your opinion I use it for tracking recording a dry Signal but playing back the V-amp sounds then I re amp my dry track. I have found the V-amp to be a lot better than a lot of the guitar plugins out there for the price it gets the job done but agree its not as good as other outboard out there and I have a GT-100 on order that I cant wait to get:) Regards Norrie. There are loads of Sysex available for download online most of them I have here and yes a lot of them are crap but a lot I have found to be better than what is on the unit from factory reset.
If you have not tried them I would recommend doing so its also a great way to share tones with other users as you will see on the website. Hi Norrie, Hope your doing well I have done the file sharing thing with the V-Amp and the LX1. Never felt there was anything useful out there.lots of cool stuff though.and nothing to say I shouldn't take a second lookwith your input.
I think its because I prefer getting the most dry natural guitar sounds into the box then working with it? However you are right.Saving presets and backing up the unit is a plus. But I have my unit dialed in so closely I for my playing there is nothing I couldn't reproduce in minutes on any unit.and knock on wood mine has never died.I own 2,V-Amp Pros and 1 V-Ampire LX1.all of which are at least 6 years old. IMO.The FX on the V-Amp are Cool for noodling and quick demo stuff.but are far from credible vs any decent plug ins.
Re-Amping with plug ins like Amplitube is one thing because you stay in the box. I don't use the re-amping feature on the V-Amp as your introducing more noise and latency to your track.thus I prefer to get it dialed in first.there is also the issue of playing nuances that are lost with re-amping. As a note I have tinkered with the new GT 100. As a live unit for a working pro it is a cool piece.and it has all the FX and bells and whistles. But the V-Amp pro still has the 1-2 cab sims and amp models that I prefer. I also played with the Zoom G-3.the distortion and gain models on it smoke the GT100 completely.
The direct recording models are better as well.IMO Zoom seems to have really dialed in digital pre-amping.they seem well ahead of the pack at this time. The Zoom G5 looks to be awesome I just haven't been able to play with one yet. Hi Zungle Don't get me wrong there is a lot of crap to download lol but there are some cool presets put up by users on there I don't use the re-amping feature of the vamp ether what I do is go direct in with my guitar though my VS- 700 using lines in and out on the back of the V-amp and creating a output in Sonar I then hear the Vamp but its only recording my Di in to the VS-700 dry. If I wanted to keep the V-amp tone I could then freeze it but if not I can keep it dry and load a plug in or send the dry signal out for re-amping. I will look in too the Zoom stuff but I love Roland products:).
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Accessories: AC/AC Power Supply. Options: VC-4 VOX Footcontroller. Just awesome. Every sound I need in my small studio is all here in one little box. There is no way that I could fit 16 amps, 10 speaker cabs, and effects pedals galore in one small room. Now, they're all there!
This thing is absolutely amazing. The pre sets are pretty decent, and with a little tweaking, one can coax any sound out of it. I describe the pre sets as 'decent' only because I'm sure the tone varies from guitar to guitar.
For instance, the 'Sabbath' setting doesn't immediately sound like Tony, because I'm not playing an SG! But, I can make the hollowbody Washburn sound like Kirk Hammett if I want to!The secret must be the tube. That little sucker is right out there on top, glowing and smiling for all to see and admire. I've only personally played 3 or 4 of the amps that the ToneLab is modeling, but it sure nails 'em! The rest sure sound good. When else will most of us get a chance to play the clean channel of a Dumble Overdrive Special with a Tube Screamer? I own a pile of effects boxes, including the POD XT, the Hendrix pedal, Gp 8, Sans Amp, etc, as well as a couple classic Marshalls and Fender amps.
While it doesn't quite match the feel of a real amp it's better than most modeling boxes. I really like the contrast to the POD.
Between The Pod and the Tonelab, each has its own personality and good points. I find the Tonelab to be much thicker, warmer, and more amp like than the POD.
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The tones and selection of amps and cabinets is nice. Where it falls short is the effects. The Uni-Vibe is not very good, and the Leslie emulation is terrible to -put it nice:) Overall, well worth the money. Well made, good tones and plenty of great straight up amp sounds. Clean tones arer exceptionally nice. I'd been looking for an effects unit that I could use with my Tascam DP-01fx digital Portastudio, which has it's own built-in effects, but few I could use. I'm sure I drove the poor salespeople at Guitar Center crazy coming in there every week or so for several months, trying out just about every device in stock, but just not finding one that 'felt' quite right.
Then I plugged into a Vox Tonelab, and about fell out of my chair. Compared to the PodXT, which I almost settled for, it was like the difference between a transistor radio and a Bose WaveRadio. The thing just hooked me.
For the next several weeks I came in, plugged into it and familiarized myself with the controls, each time walking out of there with my jaw slack from incredulity at what I was hearing in the headphones. I knew I had to own one. Finally took it home a couple weeks ago, and I've never looked back.
When I'm not playing through it, I'm gazing lovingly at it's handsome anodized blue body, groovy chicken-head control knobs and actual Valve Reactor tube encased in plexiglass right out there on display. The ability to mix -n- match amps and cabs, the gain and virtual gain controls, all the effects are state-of-the-art. The tape delay effect (especially combined with a nice slow chorus) is a particular favorite of mine. As many hours as I've spent using it, I have not even scratched the surface of what the Tonelab will do. Sounds great through an amp, too, though you really have to hear it in stereo to experience the full spectrum of it's sound capabilities. I'm sure at some point down the road I will discover some obscure things the Tonelab will not do. It probably does not have the greatest variety of special effects of the different models out there, but I guarantee none of those other ones even approach the tone quality of the Tonelab.
I am giddy with anticipation at how much better my home recordings are going to sound now. My advice: get one immediately!
Been playing for almost 38 years. I know firsthand what the original amps/cabs that the Tonelab models actually sounded like 'back in the day.' I've used all of them at one time or another.
The Vox Tonelab is the most practical, variable, and accurate amp modeler and effects combo out there to date - for the money, it simply cannot be beat! Especially if you do a lot of recording, you would be a fool not to own this thing! I'm getting sounds out of it that are indistinguishable, and certainly more controllable, than the real thing mic'd. The variation of tones/sounds that are possible here is virtually infinite. Download game resident evil 4 pc full rip movie. I do not fault this little blue piece of genius in any aspect because of two key factors: One, the price versus its features makes it an outstanding value.
And, second, it's biggest limitation is YOU, the user. I am still only scratching the surface of what CAN be dialed in and usefully applied, and I have had this thing for a year. It doesn't just model an amp rig, it also allows you to build one up from scratch OR to start with one and 'deconstruct' it until it is to your exact taste.
Amazing is all I can say!!! Looking for Van Halen tone?
Just dial it in. May, Vaughn, or Harrison? Dial away young man! This Quality made piece of equipment has the uhmph to back up all of the claims that Vox has made about it. It turns my 2-12's into a 4-12 cab with the switch of a dial. True warm, 'Fat' tube sound oozes from my solid state Fender Stage 160 amp. I have owned this jewel for a short time and am still learning the ins and outs (Small knob turns go a loooong way) but I am completely satisfied with my purchase.
I still think it is a bit pricey (Low Value Rating) but aren't ALL GOOD effects these days? Bottom line.If you're teetering, STOP!!!
Make your move. First I'll get into the reasons why I picked the tonelab: 1. Ease of use: It's got a bunch of knobs and buttons and very few 'menus', you can basically reach and tweak without having to memorize menus or submenus2. Durability: The thing is made of metal, the knobs look and feel sturdy and damn it, it's heavy!3. Tone: Where the pedal hits the metal (sort of since this is the one without the pedal board) but more on that later.4. Portability: It's alot easier to lug around than it's big brother5.
This amp/effects modeler is by far the best I've ever heard and I've owned many just to name a few I've owned the Boss GT-8, Digitech Genesis 3, Pod XT/XT live, Behringer V-amp/pro and on and on. I have either owned or used all major brands of effect/amp modelers.I own a recording studio in Nashville Tn.
And I'm very particular and the only one other modeler I've used other than the Vox that ever fooled anyone was the Boss GT-8 and it's over 200.00 more than the Vox.This unit only has one down side and it's the delay along with the effects section. In particular the delay only has mono algorithms no stereo but that's not a big deal it's just that I like stereo or ping pong delays usually and the reverb length is not changeable. All of the effects in general do not have a lot of changeable parameters but don't let this fool you they all sound so good that you don't need to tweak them much and I'm the tweaking king so if I can do without all the parameters I'm guessing you might be able to as well.I think that the 3 reverb algorithms they used are the best of any of the effect modelers in the 800.00 down to it's price 299.00 they are just absolutely velvet sweet and sparkly. Again I'm very tough on reverb and these defintely cut the mustard. Now obviously there are better reverbs out there but not at this price range.The amp's they are modeling are definitely as close to the real amp as I've ever recorded with or listened to. I don't even tell anyone any more that the amps are modeled I don't have to apologize for any of the recorded amp sounds any more. No one up to date had doubted the authenticity of the amp sounds and I have a lot of discerning customers.One thing I want to make clear is I only use a few of the country, swing, jazz type amps like the fender black face, and tweed amps and if I need any distortion I just turn up the gain as you would on a real amp so I can't comment on the other 12 or 13 amp models but I can only imagine they are just as accurate.If you need a good reasonable priced stellar sounding amp/effects modeler buy this thing!!
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I was in the market for a guitar processor for direct recording. I own a Mesa dual rectifier so I was obviously a little skeptical of getting good guitar sound out of some little box. I've owned others like digitech that sound like crap! Needless to say when I put my headphones on I was blown away! These models actually really sound like tube amps.
Never have I heard distortions sound so accurate out of a modeller! Great gain/distortion.
For those of you who think these distortions don't sound good, you don't even know what good guitar sound even is. I have a mesa and it pretty much nails it. I could easily mic my amp but this thing sounds so good I don't need to. No fussing with mic placement and great for late night silent recording. Good tube crunch sound has a very full and grinding quality to it, not the fuzz/mush you novices love. This thing absolutely blows any pod piece of junk out of the water.
There is NO comparison here at all. Then I recorded direct and still sounded awesome!
I'm very pleased and impressed! And since we're on the topic of tubes, there is NO such thing as a good solid state amp! Sorry but NO such animal exists. Some of you may not know it yet, but you'll see the light or should I say hear it! If you need a direct recording solution this is it!!! Having tested the PodXT, Boss GS-10 and the Vox tonelab, the tonelab wins by a mile (in my opinion) and thats the one I took home.
Its the simplest to use and the best sounding. It doesn't have the most features and effects.
If your only looking for a multi-effects pedal, be sure and give the others a try, but if your looking for an amp modeler that really delivers the tone, this is the one. Its the only one (so far) with a real tube. Does the tube really matter? Well I could get really nice sounds out of the other pedals and they don't have tubes. After all they can write a computer algorithm to digitally clip the sound and make it warmer emulating a tube sound.
But what the tube does is make it actually FEEL right. The key is the Virtual Gain knob. That knob handles the payload into the power amp section feeding the tube. The more you turn up the Virtual Gain, the more your milking that tube for warmth and clipping, resulting in great sound and harmonics. The trick is to keep that knob cranked, or at least up pretty high. Use the regular gain to adjust overdrive, or keep the regular gain knob down low to get great clean sounds out of the Fender and Vox models. But keeping the virtual gain up, even on the clean models gives you that great digging in feeling and dynamic response you get from Fender tube amps.
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Thats when you hit that sweet spot. Put on some headphones and its unbelievable your plugged into a little blue box and getting all that sound. The delays are great, the spring reverb is not the best but it performs ok. I wish the noise gate had more settings rather than just a sensitivity level. But as I said, if your just looking for a multi-effects unit, this may not be your best bet. But the Amp models is where this thing shines.
And the effects are good, just not as plentiful as say, the boss unit, but then again, boss is an effects company and vox makes amps. I've used line6 POD before and i wasn't really happy with it because it doesn't really express the dynamics of my playing and no matter what kind of guitar i use it has the same artificial 'POD tone'.tried all kinds of things to record with better tone but didn't get a good result. My question was 'how do i get a clear noise-free warm tube tone to record without spending so much money on the condensor mic and a good recording environment and this thing was the answer. I don't have to worry any more. Music is much more fun and convenient. I really recommend this one!
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